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02/26/10 06:01 PM #391    

Randall Smith

T.B.S.B.F.


02/26/10 06:50 PM #392    

Alan Greenleaf

Texas Bullshit by Fred?


02/26/10 06:55 PM #393    

Randall Smith

You ruined our fun Al.


02/26/10 07:29 PM #394    

Fred Thomas

L.S.M.F.T.

I am merely trying to edify, educate, uplift, and enlighten while people like Randy who use acronyms, abbreviations, contractions, and condensations are trying to obfuscate, obscure, confuse, and befuddle.

Sorry, this is the result of learning all those 75 cent words from Burford.


02/27/10 02:26 PM #395    

Bruce McKelvey

L.S.M.F.T Lucky Strike Means Fine Tobacco.....


02/27/10 03:51 PM #396    

Randall Smith

Way to go Bruce


02/27/10 05:50 PM #397    

Fred Thomas

They predicted a tsunamie in Hawaii with 8-12 foot waves. Big deal, I've sailed in small boats on Lake Erie in waves that high.


02/27/10 07:57 PM #398    

Ellen Aspinwall Templar

Tsunami did some damage in Ventura, CA.
Cleveland Auto Show started this weekend!!!!


03/01/10 08:31 AM #399    

John Dawson

Fred:

Fred wrote to Randy and John the following -

Randy and John,

Do those rivers like the Cuyahoga still light on fire spomtameously up there in Ohio? Be careful when you drive over bridges as you might get your asses scortched.


Answer: Fred as soon as I figure out what "spomtameously" is I'll answer your question. It looks like the T.B.S. aroma has fouled up your senses. You write $2.00 words and spend a penny on the guide to help you spell those words!!! And please tell me what scortched means. I hope it doesn't do harm to our asses!!!!


03/01/10 08:42 AM #400    

John Dawson

Fred wrote:

"Randy and John,

Texas Obelisks are so monumental, monolithic and towering stone pillars compared with the Ohio diminutive, liliputian, peewee, pocket sized landmark rocks that are covered with buckeye juice. Why is that?"

Answer: Who gives a rats ass about a stone pillar? Actually, if you scrape those so called stone pillars in Texas you will find out they are not made of stone, but tobacco juice "you all" discarded from your "chaw packed" mouths.


03/01/10 08:54 AM #401    

John Dawson

Fred,

Where but in Texas do you worship a battle by Texans against 5000 tomato pickers, AND LOSE THE BATTLE!!! I understand that 80% of the Texans wounds were below the knees.

John


03/01/10 09:54 AM #402    

Randall Smith

What John said Ditto. I could not have said it better.


03/01/10 02:16 PM #403    

Fred Thomas

John and Randy,

If you are talking about the Battle of San Jacinto, it actually took 18 minutes to rout the Mexicans and the independent country of Texas was founded.

I live near the Brazos River and I also inspected the Rio Grande and our Texas rivers have only water in them and maybe a few gators. Did they ever figure out what causes the rivers in Ohio to burn? Maybe it's buckeye juice.


03/02/10 01:36 AM #404    

John Dawson

Fred,

No I was referring to the Alamo. After the Mexicans finished picking tomatoes after the battle there, they then moved to San Jacinto, where they were so stuffed with the tomatoes they picked they couldn't fight. With all the Mexicans in Texas and the U.S. Businesses creating jobs across the border taking jobs away from the USA, who really won that war? You Texans will soon be overrun by tomato pickers. Come to think of it, you already are!! Time to speak and write Hispanola!!

Maybe after they have taken all our jobs they will have to man their borders not to allow us in.


03/02/10 09:32 AM #405    

Fred Thomas

Cleveland Air Races

I'll never forget the Cleveland Air Races of 1949. I was four years old but the scene is vividly etched in my memory like it was yesterday. My dad took me to visit some relatives in Berea and watch the races. Berea was still rural in 1949 but there were a few new housing developments out there then. We looked up and watched those racing planes fly overhead and they were so low we could see the pilots. They were single wing propeller planes.

Suddenly smoke started pouring out of one plane and it dived straight dowm at a 45 degree angle and we heard an explosion. We all jumped into cars and drove to the nearby neighborhood, the site of the crash. We arrived within minutes and people were standing around on their front lawns looking shocked. The houses on the street seemed small even to me at the time. The sight when we arrived was like a scene out of some disaster movie. There were metal pieces of the plane laying everywhere, lawns, sidewalks and the street. On some pieces I could still see the numbers and letters. The house where the plane had crashed was on fire and I could feel the heat on my face because we were so close. Sirens were approaching. I feared the pilot was dead.

Later I heard that the pilot and the mother and baby inside the house were killed. When I heard that I felt like I had been kicked in my stommach. That was the last year of the air races. Those WWII pilots would only have to wait a year to fly like that again in the Korean War.


03/03/10 09:13 AM #406    

Bruce McKelvey

I was there also..The pilots name was Bill Odam


03/03/10 01:57 PM #407    

Fred Thomas

Saint Lucia

Probably the most beautiful place I have ever visited is the South Caribbean volcanic Island of Saint Lucia. It's a little off the beaten path for a cruiser but well worth the trouble. After docking at Castries we were picked up at the dock by a cousin of a friend of mine from work who was from St. Lucia originally. We took a winding road up the mountain and stopped a few thousand feet up to look down at our ship docked below. It was like a post card with the blue bay and ocean, white sand beaches, palm trees and what looked like a toy cruise ship.

We wound our way up to the top through a beautiful rain forest and stopped at a resort where we had a view of the two Pitons, Grosse Piton and Petite Piton. They are two young inactive volcanoes that look like upside down ice cream cones. The view was magbificent. On we drove to Marigot Bay, a black sand beach, white rivers and the active volcanoe.

Later, Back on the ship I looked up at the cloud covered Mountain and saw a perfect 180 degree rainbow. This place was paradise I thought and I knew I had to come back. I have been back many times since and have always managed to seen something new and amazing.


03/03/10 06:35 PM #408    

John Dawson

Fred and Bruce,

I too, was at the 1949 air races and saw the puff of smoke at the south end of the airport in the post WWII housing development in Berea. We were at the North end of the airport, and did not go to the site like Fred did.

Kudos to Bruce for the pilots name, Bill Odam who flew the green WWII Mustang. He was challenging Captain Cook Cleland who won the previous two air races in his "souped up" WWII Corsairs. Cook was an ace Navy Pilot. My dad kept the PD and Cleveland News clippings of the accident that I read about 10 years ago. My brother has them now.

I kept the pre-WWII PD pages on Adolf Hitler instead, and have been offered mucho money for them. They have the photos of Hitler, the Nazi gatherings in Berlin, and much more articles and photos of this era. These clippings really show their age but I still have them.

Fred was right about the casualties, pilot, mother and son. The mother and son were the first non-air race personnel to die. The then mayor of Berea put a ban on the races entering the municipality. The clamor against endangering residents of air races led to their demise in Cleveland.

That sure brought memories to me, because it was with my dad, who fought in WWII and Korea and he was in the service for several years during my youth.

Thanks for the memory Fred and Bruce.


03/03/10 08:36 PM #409    

Fred Thomas

It's amazing that the three of us were there at the Cleveland Air Show of 1949. I wonder if any other of our classmates were there that day?


03/04/10 09:33 AM #410    

Bruce McKelvey

My favorite plane in my "Air Wing" of radio controlled aircraft is my Corsair. Soon I will have a Mitchell B-25 Bomber. I plan on putting my FLYCAM on the Corsair and go thru a whole aerobatic set and download it into my puter and put it on my Facebook page....stay tuned...


03/04/10 03:03 PM #411    

Randall Smith

You and Pappy Boyington like the crooked wings.


03/05/10 09:48 AM #412    

Bruce McKelvey

I actually got to meet Pappy at an airshow years ago. I bought his book BLACKSHEEP SQUADRON and he signed it for me. We had time to talk for about a half hour. Right next to him at the airshow was the Jap pilot that shot Pappy down. They had become friends and did the Air Show circut together promoting their books....


03/05/10 10:19 AM #413    

Bruce McKelvey

Thankyou to all who wished me HAPPY BIRTHDAY this March 5th. My oldest daughter is throwing a little bash for me at her house in north Phx. Family and Friends are good...life is good.....I am now one half of 132 years old...


03/05/10 10:31 AM #414    

Alan Greenleaf

AWESOME Air show Stories guy1 I was not there, but I remember it.

Do you remember the Rocky river flood? I cannot remember the year but it had to be near 1957 or 1958. the ice dammed up the river, and water began to rise quickly, when it broke loose, the foot-thick ice floes scrubbed the CYC island almost clear of boats. Some were never recovered. I remember as a teen being down there, breaking up ice with a pick and pushing it into the water. that was hard work, and it was COLD. that was the first day that hot coffee tasted good to me. I believe that it finally was broken loose by dynamite. Can you guys fill in the gaps? I'm lucky if I can remember my own name!

Stories are cool.


 
03/05/10 04:26 PM #415    

Randall Smith

Happy Birthday Bruce

I never met Pappy but like you I read his book. He did not dwell on his drinking but the book was good.

I did meet Bob Hoover and had the privlage of working on his P-51. Hoover was Crazy, and one hell of a pilot. He was going to take me for a ride but he had to leave after his check ride. He put a show on with a blown head gasket. Water everywhere from the leaking head gasket.

I remember the ice dam but dates are not my thing.


I also Remember the tornado that tore up River and Lakewood in the 50's.


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